Learning Chaos Wars, Part 5 - Fantasy Troops and Creatures
I started this series to explore the updated release of "Chaos Wars", a set of miniatures wargaming rules by Ral Partha. In Part 4, we added terrain and Characters/Leaders to the mix. The leaders killed each other in a duel, and morale ruled the day as the Orcs overran the Human defenders!
In this post, we're going to add more special miniatures and rules to the table, with "Fantasy Troop Types" and "Creatures"!
There are 16 different races that get special rules, including humans. This does raise the "fiddly bits" bar higher, requiring that you now add bonuses/penalties to any number of situations. That requires additional tracking of these bonuses/penalties, which I tend to put on order of battle unit sheets.
I also think that these can be fiddled with to suit one's campaign, although I would then look at the troop/fantasy point values of the race to see how the changes might affect balance. For my campaign, for example, here's how I might change the "Orcs/Goblyns" type:
One big thing about Creatures is morale failure. Unlike Characters, Creatures do a morale check when they suffer hits. If they fail, Creatures do not just simply rout... they can pout, flee or go beserk!
So this could end up happening...
We've bumped this up a bit to include two Rank 4 commanders and a Creature for each side.
We'll set up our scenario approximately the same as before. Humans protect the village against a Bestial raid. If the orcs occupy the building or reduce it to ruins, they win. Humans win by preventing that from happening.
In this case, one of the human village hunters made a friend of a monstrous rock lizard, who has become protective and friendly to the village. The orcs... well... they have a troll.
The Forces of Weal and Woe assembled for battle.
My newly finished Ral Partha Orc Warriors unit, ready to spill Human blood!
I have less than a 4' wide table, about 3.5', so with movement, generally things get started in turn 2. This game was no different as the orc foot, on the right flank, charged at the opposing human foot. The cavalry charged each other at the middle while archers took pot shots at available targets. The troll lumbered off to attack the archers while the rock lizard flanked the orc warriors.
With the rock lizard attacking a troop, their attacks are a bit different, similar to characters. They roll x number of d6s, where x = their melee or ranged prowess. If the roll is 5 or 6, it's a "hit" - either a figure is removed, or an opposing character/creature loses a point of vitality.
The Rock Lizard scored two hits on the orc warriors, forcing a morale check which they failed! But... so did the human spearmen.
I didn't rally the units, as the leaders were both going to detach from their cavalry units and attempt to auto-rally the routed warriors. Meanwhile, the archers moved away from the Troll and towards the building, to get extra protection. They weren't fast enough and the Troll was upon them, scoring four hits and routing the archers!
The cavalry traded blows but maintained their spirit. Then both the human men-at-arms and the goblyn warriors routed after trading blows! The situation did not look good for the humans, with three units routed. Both leaders sprinted towards their shaken units to rally them.
Turn 4 ended up being the important turn for the battle. The orc and human leaders reached their units, waiting for the rally event. The Rock Lizard, seeing an opportunity, attacked the Orc Leader. It took two hits, but with a melee prowess of 8 (meaning I throw 8d6), it scored 5 hits and killed the Orc Leader! The lizard failed it's morale check, but it simply ran away and waited.
Meanwhile, the troll ravaged the remaining human cavalry from the rear and wiped them out!
The human leader rallied his spearmen, who turned an immediately engaged the remaining orc cavalry. He then turned to rally the archers. But the Troll decided to attempt to destroy the building and give the Bestials a victory!
The human leader was having none of that. The next turn, he challenged the Troll to personal combat. Scoring 5 hits, he killed the Troll dead, being sure to burn it's remains.
That same turn, the human spearmen forced the orc cavalry into a rout. At this point, the Bestials had no choice but to try to rally without leaders. This is a risky proposition, as if they fail, the unit dissolves. Two of the three Bestial units failed! The Orc cavalry was saved with the special fantasy troop rule I outlined above: Orcs gain a +1 on a leaderless rally checks. They needed a 4 and rolled a 3. However, with that rule, they were able to remain on the board.
That left the orcs with only 2 units, a Goblyn peasant archer unit and a very depleted cavalry unit. The humans had all of their units available, and the leader was heading towards the remaining routed creature and men-at-arms to get them back into the fight. The Bestials saw a lost cause and melted away back into the forests... the Humans won the day!
Creatures can be quite a wild card! Here, the troll wreaked havoc, forcing the archers to rout and destroying the human cavalry. It look the human army commander to put him down, which forced him to stop rallying other troops. Had the orcs been in a different position, this might have been a huge choice.
I had some questions came up that I either answered, made rules, or need to get clarification on.
1. When a character/creature gets hit, it affects their vitality. For each quarter of their vitality lost, they lose a point of prowess for melee, range and magic. In the battle of the Rock Lizard vs. the Orc Commander, this proved to be an issue! Here's why:
Orc Commander has initiative, goes first. He causes 2 points of damage on the Rock Lizard, which causes its vitality to go from 6 to 4, which would cause his melee prowess to go from 8 to 7.
Now, the Rock Lizard goes. My question was, do I roll 8 dice or 7 dice? It ends this was a major decision, because it was the 8th dice that ended up killing the Orc Leader!
As it turns out, in several places, the rules talk about combat results being simultaneous, therefore, casualties are taken after all combat is over. So, in this case, the Rock Lizard had a Melee Prowess of 8, thereby killing the Orc Leader.
2. Is attacking a building considered a melee? It mattered because the Troll was attacking the building and the Human Leader wanted to challenge it. You can't issue a challenge to a creature/character in melee. I ruled that the troll was not in melee -- a building really isn't fighting back!
3. Can a unit rout off the table? If so, is it lost? If not, does it stop at the edge? There is nothing in the rules (that I could find) and I could go either way on this. I will be asking in the Ral Partha forums and I'll let you know what I find out.
Two final bits:
1. I cut up some old cardboard and made el-cheapo movement trays. Why did I not do this earlier?! It simplified things So Much!!!!
2. The "ground terrain" is a 4x6 printed cloth mat from Cigar Box Battle Store. I love this cloth! It's a nice heavy cloth, and the print makes the terrain look great! I am using the "Mixed Ground" mat. Highly recommend!
In this post, we're going to add more special miniatures and rules to the table, with "Fantasy Troop Types" and "Creatures"!
Fantasy Troop Types
These are simply the rules about abilities, bonuses and penalties that different fantasy races get. An example of what this looks like:
There are 16 different races that get special rules, including humans. This does raise the "fiddly bits" bar higher, requiring that you now add bonuses/penalties to any number of situations. That requires additional tracking of these bonuses/penalties, which I tend to put on order of battle unit sheets.
I also think that these can be fiddled with to suit one's campaign, although I would then look at the troop/fantasy point values of the race to see how the changes might affect balance. For my campaign, for example, here's how I might change the "Orcs/Goblyns" type:
- Orcs do not suffer from the "Quarrelsome" trait, but Goblyns still do. Goblyns' quarreling does not happen if a character/leader of that side is within 12".
- Orcs do not suffer any morale penalties from lack of leaders, but Goblyns still do. Orcs gain a +1 on a leaderless rally checks.
Creatures
Creatures are unique monsters that are very similar to Characters that we learned about last time. They have Ranged/Melee prowess, vitality and unique abilities. Creatures cannot be leaders. Creatures are purchased with "fantasy points" (used for Creatures/Characters) as versus "troop points" (used for troops/units). Creatures can be "upgraded" to Elemental types. So a dragon can become a "Fire Dragon" with additional abilities, but at a cost.One big thing about Creatures is morale failure. Unlike Characters, Creatures do a morale check when they suffer hits. If they fail, Creatures do not just simply rout... they can pout, flee or go beserk!
So this could end up happening...
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| (From Oatmeal "Running" comic) |
Let's see how this works in combat
You already know the belligerents from the previous battles:
We've bumped this up a bit to include two Rank 4 commanders and a Creature for each side.
We'll set up our scenario approximately the same as before. Humans protect the village against a Bestial raid. If the orcs occupy the building or reduce it to ruins, they win. Humans win by preventing that from happening.
In this case, one of the human village hunters made a friend of a monstrous rock lizard, who has become protective and friendly to the village. The orcs... well... they have a troll.
The Forces of Weal and Woe assembled for battle.
My newly finished Ral Partha Orc Warriors unit, ready to spill Human blood!
I have less than a 4' wide table, about 3.5', so with movement, generally things get started in turn 2. This game was no different as the orc foot, on the right flank, charged at the opposing human foot. The cavalry charged each other at the middle while archers took pot shots at available targets. The troll lumbered off to attack the archers while the rock lizard flanked the orc warriors.
With the rock lizard attacking a troop, their attacks are a bit different, similar to characters. They roll x number of d6s, where x = their melee or ranged prowess. If the roll is 5 or 6, it's a "hit" - either a figure is removed, or an opposing character/creature loses a point of vitality.
The Rock Lizard scored two hits on the orc warriors, forcing a morale check which they failed! But... so did the human spearmen.
I didn't rally the units, as the leaders were both going to detach from their cavalry units and attempt to auto-rally the routed warriors. Meanwhile, the archers moved away from the Troll and towards the building, to get extra protection. They weren't fast enough and the Troll was upon them, scoring four hits and routing the archers!
The cavalry traded blows but maintained their spirit. Then both the human men-at-arms and the goblyn warriors routed after trading blows! The situation did not look good for the humans, with three units routed. Both leaders sprinted towards their shaken units to rally them.
Turn 4 ended up being the important turn for the battle. The orc and human leaders reached their units, waiting for the rally event. The Rock Lizard, seeing an opportunity, attacked the Orc Leader. It took two hits, but with a melee prowess of 8 (meaning I throw 8d6), it scored 5 hits and killed the Orc Leader! The lizard failed it's morale check, but it simply ran away and waited.
Meanwhile, the troll ravaged the remaining human cavalry from the rear and wiped them out!
The human leader rallied his spearmen, who turned an immediately engaged the remaining orc cavalry. He then turned to rally the archers. But the Troll decided to attempt to destroy the building and give the Bestials a victory!
The human leader was having none of that. The next turn, he challenged the Troll to personal combat. Scoring 5 hits, he killed the Troll dead, being sure to burn it's remains.
That same turn, the human spearmen forced the orc cavalry into a rout. At this point, the Bestials had no choice but to try to rally without leaders. This is a risky proposition, as if they fail, the unit dissolves. Two of the three Bestial units failed! The Orc cavalry was saved with the special fantasy troop rule I outlined above: Orcs gain a +1 on a leaderless rally checks. They needed a 4 and rolled a 3. However, with that rule, they were able to remain on the board.
That left the orcs with only 2 units, a Goblyn peasant archer unit and a very depleted cavalry unit. The humans had all of their units available, and the leader was heading towards the remaining routed creature and men-at-arms to get them back into the fight. The Bestials saw a lost cause and melted away back into the forests... the Humans won the day!
Thoughts and Bits
In most Chaos Wars scenarios that I've seen, or in the same armies in the rules, there are many more leader/characters. When I get to that point, more leaders will make this a different game. Being able to auto-rally is huge, especially that units can rout after only one hit. With this game that I played, the loss of the only orc leader who could rally was huge. That forced me to do leaderless-rallies on three units, and that was the clincher of the human victory.Creatures can be quite a wild card! Here, the troll wreaked havoc, forcing the archers to rout and destroying the human cavalry. It look the human army commander to put him down, which forced him to stop rallying other troops. Had the orcs been in a different position, this might have been a huge choice.
I had some questions came up that I either answered, made rules, or need to get clarification on.
1. When a character/creature gets hit, it affects their vitality. For each quarter of their vitality lost, they lose a point of prowess for melee, range and magic. In the battle of the Rock Lizard vs. the Orc Commander, this proved to be an issue! Here's why:
Orc Commander has initiative, goes first. He causes 2 points of damage on the Rock Lizard, which causes its vitality to go from 6 to 4, which would cause his melee prowess to go from 8 to 7.
Now, the Rock Lizard goes. My question was, do I roll 8 dice or 7 dice? It ends this was a major decision, because it was the 8th dice that ended up killing the Orc Leader!
As it turns out, in several places, the rules talk about combat results being simultaneous, therefore, casualties are taken after all combat is over. So, in this case, the Rock Lizard had a Melee Prowess of 8, thereby killing the Orc Leader.
2. Is attacking a building considered a melee? It mattered because the Troll was attacking the building and the Human Leader wanted to challenge it. You can't issue a challenge to a creature/character in melee. I ruled that the troll was not in melee -- a building really isn't fighting back!
3. Can a unit rout off the table? If so, is it lost? If not, does it stop at the edge? There is nothing in the rules (that I could find) and I could go either way on this. I will be asking in the Ral Partha forums and I'll let you know what I find out.
Two final bits:
1. I cut up some old cardboard and made el-cheapo movement trays. Why did I not do this earlier?! It simplified things So Much!!!!
2. The "ground terrain" is a 4x6 printed cloth mat from Cigar Box Battle Store. I love this cloth! It's a nice heavy cloth, and the print makes the terrain look great! I am using the "Mixed Ground" mat. Highly recommend!
Hey Mike, played my first Chaos Wars at Fall In! My son and I had a fun time with it.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with you that all the modifiers can get a bit fiddly. My guess is that since the basic mechanics are so simple, this becomes less of a problem the more you play and become familiar with things.
You asked about routing off the table. In the game we played, you could attempt to rally your troops during Event 6 of the turn. You did not have to try to rally your units if you did not want to. If you did attempt to rally and failed, they were immediately removed from play. So, no further retreat movement.
Also, I think you came to the correct decision with the melee between the Orc Commander and the Rock Lizard. Combat is simultaneous.
I'll say that the addition of Creatures to the game really adds some color and, as you noted, a failed morale roll can be alot of fun.
One last comment worth mentioning, the Undead are a serious opponent in this game. Even the Skeleton peasants can be formidable since all of this type have the special abilities of Fearsome and Relentless. They essentially do not need to check morale.
@Derv - sounds like you had fun!
ReplyDeleteThat's not quite what was happening. My archers were 10" away from the edge of the board. They routed. To do my rout move, I initially mistakenly moved them 12" (still stuck on thinking like skirmish archers, which move 12"....) and came up with that scenario. In fact, they only moved 8" and stayed put.
BUT... if they had been 6" from the edge of the table, routed, then they would have hit that edge within the full rout move... and thus is my question. What happens to them then? I'm waiting for the folks at Ral Partha to answer.
I've not had those special abilities yet, but I'm getting there! So far, it's just been the Humans, Orcs and Goblins, with the rules from my campaign. As it was, taking away the squabbling from Orcs worked very well!
Ah, that's a good question. I'm going to go with tradition and speculate that they would be considered out of play. But, I could see allowing them to rout the full distance, away from the enemy, in a direction that would not take them off table. That actually seems like a fair option.
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